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Tuesday, September 18, 2012
The Logic That Discredits a 'Gay Marriage' argument
In the news, there have been some cases of the media or activists taking offense when a high ranking official in the Church points out that if homosexual 'marriage' was permitted, there was no reason to deny polygamy and incestuous marriage between consenting partners. The result is to watch the supporters of so-called 'gay marriage' hit the ceiling as they angrily deny such a claim, while accusing us of saying hateful things. How dare they say homosexual relationships are the equivalent to incest and polygamy?
Well, they didn't make that comparison. These were not statements of moral equivalence. Nor were they examples of the "slippery slope" fallacy (which argues if X happens, then Y and Z must also happen).
What the cardinal and the bishop did was to employ the logical tool of reductio ad absurdum (reduction to absurdity). This tool shows that the consequences of taking an argument to its logical end are so absurd or offensive that the argument itself must be rejected as absurd or offensive. (The reductio can sometimes be confused for the slippery slope, but the two are not the same)
The reductio can be broken down this way.
- IF a person accepts the claim that feelings of affection between people, able to give consent, are the only necessary conditions for marriage (and those who insist it is intolerance to claim that marriage between a man and a woman is the only valid form of marriage)
- THEN any similar feelings of affection between people able to give consent must also be granted the right to 'marry.'
- THUS absurd results like polygamy and incestuous marriage must also be accepted for the same grounds "gay marriage" is accepted (that is, you can't accept one and deny the other without being arbitrary).
"Sorry dear, I'm leaving you and marrying our 18 year old daughter… we love each other and it is bigoted of you to try to restrict who we can marry."
The point is NOT to say "homosexuality = incest." The point is this argument for so-called "gay marriage" cannot exclude incestuous marriage and polygamy as well. Since the angry reactions show us that even supporters of "gay marriage" are offended by this comparison – an indication that the consequences of taking the argument to it's logical end are absurd or offensive, it follows this argument to justify "gay marriage" is absurd (or else opponents of incestuous marriage are "incestophobic.")
Far from being a comparison of "gay marriage" and polygamy or incestuous relationships, this reductio ad absurdum points out that this argument put forward to defend "gay marriage" actually also justifies behavior that goes too far even for the supporters. If the supporter of "gay marriage" wants to accuse us of 'homophobia' because we believe marriage should be between a man and a woman only, then the supporter of polygamy or incestuous 'marriage' can accuse the person who wants to limit marriage to two people who are not related to each other can also be accused of intolerant bigotry.
So here is the problem for those who attack the Catholic Church as "intolerant" because she defines marriage between a man and a woman only. Because they recognize the openness to possibility of life as one of the requirements of marriage and the unity of two people as another, it is not intolerance that marriage be made up of only two people and between a man and a woman.
BUT, for anyone who claims that it is only the affection between people that is the basis of marriage – and therefore homosexual "marriage" should be allowed IS bigoted if they refuse to allow other unions which fall under this criteria.
Remember, by expressing outrage at this claim, the proponents of "gay marriage" have already demonstrated that they find the possibility of polygamy and incestuous "marriage" offensive by being outraged at what the bishop and the cardinal have said. So their dilemma is:
- Either they tolerate any sort of relationship which can be justified by the reductio ad absurdum
- OR they must justify why they can draw the line to exclude these things and still rationally support "gay marriage."
Maybe that's why supporters are so prone to hurling ad hominems instead of explaining their position?
The Logic That Discredits a 'Gay Marriage' argument
In the news, there have been some cases of the media or activists taking offense when a high ranking official in the Church points out that if homosexual 'marriage' was permitted, there was no reason to deny polygamy and incestuous marriage between consenting partners. The result is to watch the supporters of so-called 'gay marriage' hit the ceiling as they angrily deny such a claim, while accusing us of saying hateful things. How dare they say homosexual relationships are the equivalent to incest and polygamy?
Well, they didn't make that comparison. These were not statements of moral equivalence. Nor were they examples of the "slippery slope" fallacy (which argues if X happens, then Y and Z must also happen).
What the cardinal and the bishop did was to employ the logical tool of reductio ad absurdum (reduction to absurdity). This tool shows that the consequences of taking an argument to its logical end are so absurd or offensive that the argument itself must be rejected as absurd or offensive. (The reductio can sometimes be confused for the slippery slope, but the two are not the same)
The reductio can be broken down this way.
- IF a person accepts the claim that feelings of affection between people, able to give consent, are the only necessary conditions for marriage (and those who insist it is intolerance to claim that marriage between a man and a woman is the only valid form of marriage)
- THEN any similar feelings of affection between people able to give consent must also be granted the right to 'marry.'
- THUS absurd results like polygamy and incestuous marriage must also be accepted for the same grounds "gay marriage" is accepted (that is, you can't accept one and deny the other without being arbitrary).
"Sorry dear, I'm leaving you and marrying our 18 year old daughter… we love each other and it is bigoted of you to try to restrict who we can marry."
The point is NOT to say "homosexuality = incest." The point is this argument for so-called "gay marriage" cannot exclude incestuous marriage and polygamy as well. Since the angry reactions show us that even supporters of "gay marriage" are offended by this comparison – an indication that the consequences of taking the argument to it's logical end are absurd or offensive, it follows this argument to justify "gay marriage" is absurd (or else opponents of incestuous marriage are "incestophobic.")
Far from being a comparison of "gay marriage" and polygamy or incestuous relationships, this reductio ad absurdum points out that this argument put forward to defend "gay marriage" actually also justifies behavior that goes too far even for the supporters. If the supporter of "gay marriage" wants to accuse us of 'homophobia' because we believe marriage should be between a man and a woman only, then the supporter of polygamy or incestuous 'marriage' can accuse the person who wants to limit marriage to two people who are not related to each other can also be accused of intolerant bigotry.
So here is the problem for those who attack the Catholic Church as "intolerant" because she defines marriage between a man and a woman only. Because they recognize the openness to possibility of life as one of the requirements of marriage and the unity of two people as another, it is not intolerance that marriage be made up of only two people and between a man and a woman.
BUT, for anyone who claims that it is only the affection between people that is the basis of marriage – and therefore homosexual "marriage" should be allowed IS bigoted if they refuse to allow other unions which fall under this criteria.
Remember, by expressing outrage at this claim, the proponents of "gay marriage" have already demonstrated that they find the possibility of polygamy and incestuous "marriage" offensive by being outraged at what the bishop and the cardinal have said. So their dilemma is:
- Either they tolerate any sort of relationship which can be justified by the reductio ad absurdum
- OR they must justify why they can draw the line to exclude these things and still rationally support "gay marriage."
Maybe that's why supporters are so prone to hurling ad hominems instead of explaining their position?
Sunday, August 26, 2012
Propaganda and Lies: Exactly Who Is Trying to Impose on Who?
In the online version of the Guardian is a story about the fight to defend traditional marriage. What caught my eye (and raised my ire) was the quote made by a "Gay marriage" activist:
"It is increasingly clear that the church has an anti-gay agenda that it wants to impose on the rest of society," said Tom French, policy co-ordinator of the Equality Network. "We urge the Scottish government to stand firm on plans to introduce equal marriage and not give in to demands that would discriminate against LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender] people."
Funny sort of imposition here. The Scottish government is trying to make these "gay marriage ceremonies" available by 2015. The Catholic Church is opposing this change. Yet, it is the Catholic Church which is accused of imposing an agenda.
It would be more accurate to say that it is the Scottish government which is trying to impose an agenda – the agenda being to deny there are any differences between the heterosexual marriage and a homosexual relationship.
Look at the sequence:
- Christian moral teaching on sexuality exists
- In the early 21st century, certain activists attempt to pass laws which attack the long existing Christian moral teaching
- The Christians are accused of imposing their pre-existing views because they try to defend their views
Unfortunately this sequence is ignored when there is a dispute over moral issues. The faction which is attempting to impose a change declares their own position is the "neutral" position, and the one who opposes it is the "extremist." This is an ad hominem attack, using a label to vilify the opponent rather than refute the challenge.
It also is a dishonest attack that attempts to cast the faction attempting to impose the change as the referee instead of one of the combatants. It is claimed, without proof, that the belief in favor of "gay marriage" or abortion or the contraception mandate is "right" and the opposition is extremist or homophobic or anti-woman.
But the claim that these changes are right is what needs to be proven to begin with! To prove the point, the premise needs to be have a source of reason, ground or evidence for its truth other than the conclusion of the argument.
Being aware of the Slavery and Racism counter-arguments and why they are not relevant
Now, it is true that in some cultures, vicious custom and corrupt habit (see Summa Theologica I-IIa Q94. A 6) which have been long accepted do need to be opposed because they are contrary to the natural law. Slavery and other forms of racism are valid examples of this. However, it would be wrong to automatically assume that anything which is challenged is automatically in the wrong while the faction challenging it is automatically right.
Unfortunately this is the basic assumption when it comes to attacking Christian morality. It is argued that opposition to "gay marriage" is based on homophobia in the same way as favoring slavery is based on racism. The problem is, again, this has to be proved. It is not proven.
(Christian teaching appeared at a time when slavery was already existing and accepted. I'm not going to derail the topic by people slinging Bible verses in an attempt to argue Christianity was to the right of the KKK. Colossians 3:22-4:1 was dealing with how converts who were slaves or slave owners were obligated to be loving to each other. It never gave approval to to the existence of slavery. Galatians 3:26-29 is needed to put the Paul's statement into context).
It is a sad fact that many Christians did keep slaves (as did many non Christians), but that was a vicious custom kept by some Christians and not a tenet of Christianity itself. However, it does not follow that Christians following a vicious custom in the case of slavery means that Christians follow a vicious custom in the case of calling homosexual acts sinful.
Again, we have people who make that claim assuming as proven exactly what they need to prove.
Conclusion
This is a common tactic in the modern culture struggle. Those who are attacking are accusing the Christians of being on the attack, when in fact the Christians are who are defending their beliefs. Unfortunately all too many people are falling for the propaganda. Men and women of good faith need to recognize this propaganda and to reject it. They need to realize that these activists are using their rhetoric to impose their beliefs without establishing that they are true.
We need to realize that far from Christians being dispensers of that which is hateful and intolerant, it is their opponents who are using deceptive arguments and propaganda to distort what the actual issue is. They need to justify to the world why their case is TRUE, and not merely label us as "homophobic" and declare their position as proven.
Propaganda and Lies: Exactly Who Is Trying to Impose on Who?
In the online version of the Guardian is a story about the fight to defend traditional marriage. What caught my eye (and raised my ire) was the quote made by a "Gay marriage" activist:
"It is increasingly clear that the church has an anti-gay agenda that it wants to impose on the rest of society," said Tom French, policy co-ordinator of the Equality Network. "We urge the Scottish government to stand firm on plans to introduce equal marriage and not give in to demands that would discriminate against LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender] people."
Funny sort of imposition here. The Scottish government is trying to make these "gay marriage ceremonies" available by 2015. The Catholic Church is opposing this change. Yet, it is the Catholic Church which is accused of imposing an agenda.
It would be more accurate to say that it is the Scottish government which is trying to impose an agenda – the agenda being to deny there are any differences between the heterosexual marriage and a homosexual relationship.
Look at the sequence:
- Christian moral teaching on sexuality exists
- In the early 21st century, certain activists attempt to pass laws which attack the long existing Christian moral teaching
- The Christians are accused of imposing their pre-existing views because they try to defend their views
Unfortunately this sequence is ignored when there is a dispute over moral issues. The faction which is attempting to impose a change declares their own position is the "neutral" position, and the one who opposes it is the "extremist." This is an ad hominem attack, using a label to vilify the opponent rather than refute the challenge.
It also is a dishonest attack that attempts to cast the faction attempting to impose the change as the referee instead of one of the combatants. It is claimed, without proof, that the belief in favor of "gay marriage" or abortion or the contraception mandate is "right" and the opposition is extremist or homophobic or anti-woman.
But the claim that these changes are right is what needs to be proven to begin with! To prove the point, the premise needs to be have a source of reason, ground or evidence for its truth other than the conclusion of the argument.
Being aware of the Slavery and Racism counter-arguments and why they are not relevant
Now, it is true that in some cultures, vicious custom and corrupt habit (see Summa Theologica I-IIa Q94. A 6) which have been long accepted do need to be opposed because they are contrary to the natural law. Slavery and other forms of racism are valid examples of this. However, it would be wrong to automatically assume that anything which is challenged is automatically in the wrong while the faction challenging it is automatically right.
Unfortunately this is the basic assumption when it comes to attacking Christian morality. It is argued that opposition to "gay marriage" is based on homophobia in the same way as favoring slavery is based on racism. The problem is, again, this has to be proved. It is not proven.
(Christian teaching appeared at a time when slavery was already existing and accepted. I'm not going to derail the topic by people slinging Bible verses in an attempt to argue Christianity was to the right of the KKK. Colossians 3:22-4:1 was dealing with how converts who were slaves or slave owners were obligated to be loving to each other. It never gave approval to to the existence of slavery. Galatians 3:26-29 is needed to put the Paul's statement into context).
It is a sad fact that many Christians did keep slaves (as did many non Christians), but that was a vicious custom kept by some Christians and not a tenet of Christianity itself. However, it does not follow that Christians following a vicious custom in the case of slavery means that Christians follow a vicious custom in the case of calling homosexual acts sinful.
Again, we have people who make that claim assuming as proven exactly what they need to prove.
Conclusion
This is a common tactic in the modern culture struggle. Those who are attacking are accusing the Christians of being on the attack, when in fact the Christians are who are defending their beliefs. Unfortunately all too many people are falling for the propaganda. Men and women of good faith need to recognize this propaganda and to reject it. They need to realize that these activists are using their rhetoric to impose their beliefs without establishing that they are true.
We need to realize that far from Christians being dispensers of that which is hateful and intolerant, it is their opponents who are using deceptive arguments and propaganda to distort what the actual issue is. They need to justify to the world why their case is TRUE, and not merely label us as "homophobic" and declare their position as proven.
Tuesday, January 31, 2012
The State of Our Union
Introduction
Personally, I wanted to let my blog fade away into obscurity… well into more obscurity… and retire. But like it or not, our nation has a crisis on its hands. The crisis is the Constitutional Right of religion is being negated by a government which is so determined to force a set of values on us that they do not care what they violate in doing so.
The issue is that the Obama administration is determined to force certain things (sanctioning of homosexual relationships and requiring employers to pay for contraception and abortions) even when such things force us to disobey God. This is an action that no state has the right to demand.
Good and Evil
Ultimately the state is considered good or evil based on how it positions itself in relation to God's law. The state is considered free or not free depending on whether or not it harasses or restricts people who do seek to follow God's law. I think it can be argued that America has been an evil nation for quite some time with the government making legal and supported things which violate God's law.
I also think it can be argued that America has passed from being a free nation (tolerating Christians who seek to do God's will) to being a not free nation (harassing and restricting religious groups who seek to follow God's way rather than to disobey God and follow the state).
Forcing Beliefs on Others?
It is true that not all Americans are Christians, or even believers in any religion at all. Some may take that fact in saying, "You're just forcing your beliefs on others!" However this shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the issues. Jewish Americans approach American life from the perspective of their values. Muslim Americans, Buddhist Americans, atheistic Americans all do the same. However, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and atheistic institutions are not being forced to act in a way contrary to their beliefs, while Christian institutions are told they have one year to comply with directives which run counter to their beliefs.
Now, as to the issue of "imposing views on others." This is a common accusation, which essentially works like this:
- Opposition to Abortion is a "personal value"
- These opponents want to make abortion illegal.
- Therefore opponents to abortion want to push their personal values on others.
The problem is, even if one accepted this argument (which I do not), it overlooks the fact that supporting abortion is also a personal value, and one can simply reverse the argument and say supporters of abortion want to push their views on others – and such a charge would be absolutely true! If we who believe abortion is wrong can be charged with "pushing values on others," then those who want to promote abortion can be accused of exactly the same thing. If it's wrong for us to do this, obviously it's wrong for them to do this as well.
Therefore, to oppose Christians on this ground is hypocrisy pure and simple.
Objective Truth Dictates What Must Be Done
To avoid such a charge of "pushing values," we have to recognize that certain things are absolute and are always wrong even when society does not recognize it is wrong.
Take the issue of slavery. Our country once thought (and still struggles with in some aspects) that certain races were inferior and less than fully human. Despite some arguments on the subject, the majority of the nation at one time accepted it as reasonable. Even some abolitionists doubted that African-Americans had the ability to act like human beings and fit in as American citizens.
Today we recognize that this was a terrible belief that dehumanized others and refused to treat people as the human beings they were.
That is why we don't accept arguments that the opposition to slavery was nothing more than one group "pushing values" on another group. When a society supports a view that contradicts objective truth, that society is doing wrong even if members of that society don't realize it. However, our revulsion with such a society is that there is no valid reason for people to think in such a way. Either they close their eyes and mind to the truth to avoid difficult questions or they deliberately choose what they know is wrong.
Such a view recognizes there is a knowable truth which people fail to reach through their own fault. Such knowable truth is demonstrated by the praising or condemning of behavior based on this.
Essentially, the Obama administration and their supporters believe that their views are absolutely true – abortion and gay "marriage" are good in and of themselves and whoever disagrees is acting from intolerance. Such a view – especially with the condemnation of Christians as "intolerant" – indicates that they believe their views are objectively true and can be known.
Twofold Problem With the Attack on Christianity
The problem is twofold. First, they cannot show the objective truth for their claims but can only make use of logical fallacies to claim their situations are similar to objective truths we recognize. Secondly, they assume four thousand years of Jewish moral beliefs and two thousand years of Christian moral teaching was dead wrong based on intolerance.
The logical fallacies are largely appeals to emotion and fear, while misrepresenting the motives of those who oppose them: "How can you want to prevent people who love each other from marrying?" "How can you want to force a woman to be pregnant?" These are not at all our motives. However, these false statements gain acceptance simply by having people repeat them over and over. It's like those people who believe Catholics worship Mary. We don't, but the lie is so often repeated that people accept it as true.
The assumption that Christian moral teachings are nothing more than 2000 years of intolerance leads to the question, "On what basis do you say this?" Usually what you get in response is a litany of supposed abuses (mostly repeated lies or else distortions of what is true) which are unrelated. Some ignorant peasants burned suspected witches, therefore the opposition to homosexual "marriage" is the result of ignorant Christians. The problem is, the hysteria over witches by uneducated peoples in the 15th and 16th centuries is not the same as the reasoned condemnation of homosexual acts even in times and cultures where it was tolerated in decadent societies.
Basically it is an argument of chronological snobbery which assumes that an advance of 2000 years of scientific knowledge automatically means an advance of 2000 years of moral knowledge. I think history will show that this assumption is not true.
Conclusion
So ultimately the state of our Union is troubled and ominous. The present administration and those who agree with it assume they know what is good and can force those who disagree with them to comply, contrary to the Constitution of the United States.
Those people who support the Obama administration should beware. Once it is accepted as true that the government can overrule the obligations of conscience, there are no limits to what they can do. History is full of examples of government ideologies which were forced on the people. The results were the gulag and the concentration camp in those cases.
Now the gulag and the concentration camp may never show up in America, so let's not be distracted by arguing over whether they will. That misses the point of danger which is: If you think the government has the right to force people to act against conscience, then when the wheel turns and those out of power come into power, you will have no justification to object when the government turns on you.
And that's why even people who don't recognize the truth of Christianity should be alarmed about Obama's decrees. If you are silent when the government turns on us, who will speak up when it turns on you?
The State of Our Union
Introduction
Personally, I wanted to let my blog fade away into obscurity… well into more obscurity… and retire. But like it or not, our nation has a crisis on its hands. The crisis is the Constitutional Right of religion is being negated by a government which is so determined to force a set of values on us that they do not care what they violate in doing so.
The issue is that the Obama administration is determined to force certain things (sanctioning of homosexual relationships and requiring employers to pay for contraception and abortions) even when such things force us to disobey God. This is an action that no state has the right to demand.
Good and Evil
Ultimately the state is considered good or evil based on how it positions itself in relation to God's law. The state is considered free or not free depending on whether or not it harasses or restricts people who do seek to follow God's law. I think it can be argued that America has been an evil nation for quite some time with the government making legal and supported things which violate God's law.
I also think it can be argued that America has passed from being a free nation (tolerating Christians who seek to do God's will) to being a not free nation (harassing and restricting religious groups who seek to follow God's way rather than to disobey God and follow the state).
Forcing Beliefs on Others?
It is true that not all Americans are Christians, or even believers in any religion at all. Some may take that fact in saying, "You're just forcing your beliefs on others!" However this shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the issues. Jewish Americans approach American life from the perspective of their values. Muslim Americans, Buddhist Americans, atheistic Americans all do the same. However, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and atheistic institutions are not being forced to act in a way contrary to their beliefs, while Christian institutions are told they have one year to comply with directives which run counter to their beliefs.
Now, as to the issue of "imposing views on others." This is a common accusation, which essentially works like this:
- Opposition to Abortion is a "personal value"
- These opponents want to make abortion illegal.
- Therefore opponents to abortion want to push their personal values on others.
The problem is, even if one accepted this argument (which I do not), it overlooks the fact that supporting abortion is also a personal value, and one can simply reverse the argument and say supporters of abortion want to push their views on others – and such a charge would be absolutely true! If we who believe abortion is wrong can be charged with "pushing values on others," then those who want to promote abortion can be accused of exactly the same thing. If it's wrong for us to do this, obviously it's wrong for them to do this as well.
Therefore, to oppose Christians on this ground is hypocrisy pure and simple.
Objective Truth Dictates What Must Be Done
To avoid such a charge of "pushing values," we have to recognize that certain things are absolute and are always wrong even when society does not recognize it is wrong.
Take the issue of slavery. Our country once thought (and still struggles with in some aspects) that certain races were inferior and less than fully human. Despite some arguments on the subject, the majority of the nation at one time accepted it as reasonable. Even some abolitionists doubted that African-Americans had the ability to act like human beings and fit in as American citizens.
Today we recognize that this was a terrible belief that dehumanized others and refused to treat people as the human beings they were.
That is why we don't accept arguments that the opposition to slavery was nothing more than one group "pushing values" on another group. When a society supports a view that contradicts objective truth, that society is doing wrong even if members of that society don't realize it. However, our revulsion with such a society is that there is no valid reason for people to think in such a way. Either they close their eyes and mind to the truth to avoid difficult questions or they deliberately choose what they know is wrong.
Such a view recognizes there is a knowable truth which people fail to reach through their own fault. Such knowable truth is demonstrated by the praising or condemning of behavior based on this.
Essentially, the Obama administration and their supporters believe that their views are absolutely true – abortion and gay "marriage" are good in and of themselves and whoever disagrees is acting from intolerance. Such a view – especially with the condemnation of Christians as "intolerant" – indicates that they believe their views are objectively true and can be known.
Twofold Problem With the Attack on Christianity
The problem is twofold. First, they cannot show the objective truth for their claims but can only make use of logical fallacies to claim their situations are similar to objective truths we recognize. Secondly, they assume four thousand years of Jewish moral beliefs and two thousand years of Christian moral teaching was dead wrong based on intolerance.
The logical fallacies are largely appeals to emotion and fear, while misrepresenting the motives of those who oppose them: "How can you want to prevent people who love each other from marrying?" "How can you want to force a woman to be pregnant?" These are not at all our motives. However, these false statements gain acceptance simply by having people repeat them over and over. It's like those people who believe Catholics worship Mary. We don't, but the lie is so often repeated that people accept it as true.
The assumption that Christian moral teachings are nothing more than 2000 years of intolerance leads to the question, "On what basis do you say this?" Usually what you get in response is a litany of supposed abuses (mostly repeated lies or else distortions of what is true) which are unrelated. Some ignorant peasants burned suspected witches, therefore the opposition to homosexual "marriage" is the result of ignorant Christians. The problem is, the hysteria over witches by uneducated peoples in the 15th and 16th centuries is not the same as the reasoned condemnation of homosexual acts even in times and cultures where it was tolerated in decadent societies.
Basically it is an argument of chronological snobbery which assumes that an advance of 2000 years of scientific knowledge automatically means an advance of 2000 years of moral knowledge. I think history will show that this assumption is not true.
Conclusion
So ultimately the state of our Union is troubled and ominous. The present administration and those who agree with it assume they know what is good and can force those who disagree with them to comply, contrary to the Constitution of the United States.
Those people who support the Obama administration should beware. Once it is accepted as true that the government can overrule the obligations of conscience, there are no limits to what they can do. History is full of examples of government ideologies which were forced on the people. The results were the gulag and the concentration camp in those cases.
Now the gulag and the concentration camp may never show up in America, so let's not be distracted by arguing over whether they will. That misses the point of danger which is: If you think the government has the right to force people to act against conscience, then when the wheel turns and those out of power come into power, you will have no justification to object when the government turns on you.
And that's why even people who don't recognize the truth of Christianity should be alarmed about Obama's decrees. If you are silent when the government turns on us, who will speak up when it turns on you?